viernes, junio 03, 2005

Cortell, ¿Entregaste el dinero a Stallman?

Tras una velada organizada por la UPF (otro gran merito de la Universidad española invitar a charlas a gente que alardea de titulos falsos), Cortell anunció en su weblog que entregaria el dinero recibido (340 euros) a Richard Stallman en Bruselas.

También dijo que le entregaría una hucha que le ofrecieron, suponemos para ir acumulando el dinero que reciba Cortell de Stalman.

Bien, Cortell ya ha vuelto de Bruselas y no ha hecho ninguna mención sobre este tema.
Y es raro porque Jorge en estos temas (todo lo que le de glorio va a la portada de jorge.cortell.net) es muy puntilloso.

Stallman mantiene que “el derecho a compartir copias de los trabajos publicados es un derecho humano y las leyes que lo niegan no tienen legitimidad moral. El hecho de que los gobiernos intenten negarnos este derecho demuestra que obedecen a las empresas antes que al pueblo. Los intentos de prohibir los programas P2P son sólo una parte de la batalla por la libertad de compartir”.

Aunque nunca ha usado estas redes, según dice, para evitar verse envuelto en demandas y acusaciones.

Stallman desconoce quien ganará las batallas por el reconocimiento legal de las redes P2P, aunque si lanza una advertencia "Sólo debemos hacerlo lo mejor posible", consejo que deberia aplicarse él mismo cuando se acompañará en distinas charlas de Barcelona con un personaje que es cuestionado en parte de la red española por haber alardeado de un CV falseado.

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Anonymous Anónimo said...

If you read Stallman's own bio, he only obtained a Bachelor's in Physics (Harvard).

http://www.stallman.org/#serious

There is nothing wrong with having only bachelor's degree. Many people respect Stallman's opinions.

The problem is when Cortell lies about his academic creditials. The lying and the cover-up is the most damaging part of this episode.

President Nixon and President Clinton --- the damage was in the lying and the cover-up.

sábado, junio 04, 2005 1:50:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

La critica no es hacía Stallman. El fundador de GNU dice que la lucha hay que hacerla bien y por eso es incomprensible que le acompañe Cortell, quien ni usa Linux ni tiene un CV digamos "inmaculado"

sábado, junio 04, 2005 10:15:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

Oh, vaya, toda una vida y un colectivo renegando del inmovilismo de la cúpula universitaria, de la dictadura del título y ahora resulta que es tan importante...

No veo ni un sólo aurgumento para rebatir los de Cortell. Sólo veo mala baba.

Este blog es una falacia que ni siquiera da pie a comentarios como este.

Hala ángel, bórralo.

Pilar.

viernes, junio 10, 2005 7:20:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

Una cosa es renegar de la cúpula, etc., y otra el ir ciego por la vida y no decir ni mu ante CVs aberrantes (aka, con mentiras o títulos falsos).

viernes, junio 10, 2005 10:51:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous BACH said...

Buenas,

En este blog lanzais preguntas al aire como dando a entender que Jorge no entregó el dinero. Si tanta curiosidad teníais porque no se lo preguntasteis a él. Esperais que venga a contestaros a vuestro BLOG, y luego el chulo es él.

Yo lo hice y me contestó muy educadamente y para que os enteréis: SÍ QUE LO ENTREGÓ.

martes, junio 14, 2005 7:54:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

bach,

Jorge Cortell's supporters must be the stupidest people on earth.

Jorge proudly tells the world that he earned a B+ in a first year undergraduate course from Havard's night school for the mature students.

http://www.cortell.net/2005/06/13/orgulloso-carnaza-para-trolls/

So anyone who studied a first year psycholoy course --- is an expert in psychology.

I took "introductory psychology 101" and Sigmund Freud's theory tells me that you are secretly gay and that you are in love with Jorge. Or that your father abandoned you when you were very young --- so you need a father figure. I mean I took this first year course --- so I must be an expert in psychology.

And then people asked Jorge why "undergraduate" course?

His explanation (that he CHOSE to take the course as undergraduate) is just non-sense.

Jorge Cortell does NOT have a bachelor's degree. In order to attend a post-graduate course --- you need to have a bachelor's degree first. That is why he took "first year introductory undergraduate courses" --- because he does not have a real bachelor's degree.

The new Jorge Cortell blog is just using other famous names as his new game plan now. Listing Carlos Sánchez as "Admirado abogado" --- he denounced you in his blog. Talking about Javier Muñoz's earlier blog entry --- Javier denounced you as well. David Bravo --- does not even know you right now --- David has said nothing about you since this fiasco. Richard Stallman met you for 5 minutes --- that's it.

martes, junio 14, 2005 9:19:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

Anonymous, no estoy enamorado Jorge Cortell pero sí de sus ideas.

Dices que conoce poco a Richard Stallman pero Richard Stallman tiene mucha confianza en él, supongo que no lo sabrás, pero lo propuso para ser su tesorero en Europa, le dijo que abriera la cuenta bancaria de la FSF en UE.

(Tengo la impresión de que los de la SGAE están aprendiendo Inglés)

martes, junio 14, 2005 9:41:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

Stallman met him for 5 minutes before the conference in May.

Would anyone send money to a treasurer who has questionable creditials? It would be as bad as "nigerian money scam spam".

Do you think that Carlos Sánchez, Javier Muñoz and David Bravo --- will say nothing if they are contacted by FSF?

>>>Anonymous, no estoy enamorado Jorge Cortell pero sí de sus ideas.

Finally --- Jorge Cortell does not have any real ideas. He "cut and paste" what other people (real lawyers like David Bravo) are saying and put it into a killer powerpoint presentation --- and presented to a bunch of 19 year computer science students who does not know anything.

"Real" adults and real professionals like Javier Muñoz --- whether they agree with "copyleft" or not, just think that Cortell's "ideas" are incomprehensible. Why? Because Cortell "cut and paste" other people's ideas without actually knowing these theories correctly.

Go and look back at your first year university papers --- every first year university student "cut and paste" other people's ideas (with "quotes" and footnotes) and put them into their papers. Does you first year university paper make any sense? No, because you don't know the theories correctly.

If I go to NASA's website --- cut and paste a bunch of their stuff and presented a killer presentation in front of a bunch of 10 year old kids --- these kids would think that I am a "rocket scientist" as well.

martes, junio 14, 2005 10:00:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

Bach,

I do not know how you can support Cortell as a "idea thinker" or as a "human being".

As a "idea" thinker, he "copy and paste" other people's ideas (real lawyers and real professors) --- without knowing what those theories are about.

As a "human being", he takes money from little kids for his conferences. He tried to use the internet to make himself famous ---it did not work as he planned when his academic background is looked at carefully.

Little kids questioned his creditials. Cortell gives little kids the most idiotic explanations (i.e. I sold my doctorate thesis). Real adults tells these kids that you can find doctorate thesis in university libraries.

Little kids asked Cortell in his blogs about this. Cortell labeled these little kids as hackers who destroyed his old blog. Little kids wrote their own blogs about his creditials. Cortell forced little kids to remove their blog entries.

Adults (Carlos Sánchez, Javier Muñoz) wrote in their blogs attacking Cortell's CV. Cortell does not force them to remove their blog entries. Asociación de Compositores y Autores de Música wrote a story attacking Cortell's CV. Cortell does not force them to remove the story.

Is Cortell the kind of person you should support? Takes money from little kids, lie to little kids, and scare little kids into removing their blog stories.

martes, junio 14, 2005 10:35:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

anonymous:

¿Por qué sabes que no son amigos: Richard Stallman y Jorge Cortell? No creo que conozcas a Richard Stallman.

He buscado en google: "cortell site:fsf.org"
y aparece Jorge Cortell así que Richard Stallman si que habló con el.

Carlos Sánchez no denuncia a Jorge Cortell en su blog, ¿puedes poner el enlace?

David Bravo no habla mal de Jorge Cortell.

Dices que él no sabe porque no tiene un título pero en su blog hay una lista con todos los libros que leyo y son muchos, puedes saber sin estudiar en la universidad si lees muchos libros.

martes, junio 14, 2005 10:49:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

If you read Stallman's blog entry (and if you understand English a little bit better) --- there was nothing in Stallman's blog that suggested that Stallman knows this Cortell guy at all.

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/entry-20050601.html

Carlos Sánchez's blog entry.

http://www.republicainternet.com/articulo.php?id=72

>>>David Bravo no habla mal de Jorge Cortell.

I said that David Bravo --- he does not even want to comment on Cortell anymore on his blog. Basically -- he does not even want to know him. Very different from late April when David was writing blogs after blogs about Cortell. Cortell is radioactive --- and David won't get near him.

>>>Dices que él no sabe porque no tiene un título pero en su blog hay una lista con todos los libros que leyo y son muchos, puedes saber sin estudiar en la universidad si lees muchos libros.

"Introductory" books on the subject. As I said, if I read a bunch of introductory psychology books --- would I be an expert in psychology.

martes, junio 14, 2005 11:11:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

Aquí no veo que hable mal de Jorge Cortell:
http://www.republicainternet.com/articulo.php?id=72

Pienso que si tienes alguna duda sobre Jorge Cortell deberías ir a su blog y hablar con él siempre contesta a los mensajes.

El dinero que gana en su conferencia no lo gasta para él. Lo da para obras benéficas. A la FSF le dio más de 300 euros. ¿Cuánto donaste tú?

martes, junio 14, 2005 11:24:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

History tells you that almost every American "white collar" criminals have donated money to US presidents --- so that these criminals can have a photo taken with the presidents, to show that they are legitimate businessmen.

Cortell is an American --- he knows the trick --- trying to legitimise himself with this opportunity.

If you need to buy your legitimacy, then it is not worth it.

With respect to Carlos Sánchez's blog entry --- you have your interpretation and I have mine. Carlos Sánchez did not come to Cortell's rescue either. Nobody legitimate in Spain is helping Cortell --- that tells you something.

martes, junio 14, 2005 11:50:00 p. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

¿Jorge Cortell es Americano?

Dices que nadie lo defiende pero ¿por qué no lo atacan? Si es un fraude David Bravo y Almeida deberían advertir al resto. Sí escucho a Almeida o a David Bravo decir que Jorge Cortell nos engaña empezaría a creermelo.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 12:07:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

>>>Dices que él no sabe porque no tiene un título pero en su blog hay una lista con todos los libros que leyo y son muchos, puedes saber sin estudiar en la universidad si lees muchos libros.

There is a scene in "Good Will Hunting" where an arrogant Harvard student tried to pick up a girl in a bar by reciting some economic theory --- to show that he is really smart.

http://es.movies.yahoo.com/db/f/2/1/213964.html

Matt Damon's character just destroyed that guy at the bar by reciting word by word in the textbook as well --- including the exact page numbers.

You are like the girl in the movie. The arrogant harvard student tried to seduce the girl by citing a bunch of non-sense from some textbook he himself does not even understand.

Oh my god, look at the amount of books Cortell read --- as posted in his blog. Introductory metaphysics and philosophy books. Oh my god, he must be really smart.

I have also studied Aristotle, Plato, Thomas Hobbes, Hegel, Habermas, Thomas Aquinas, Rene Descartes, David Hume, Immanuel Kant and --- of course Machiavelli. I studied them in 2nd year, 3rd and 4th year courses --- in a real university with a real major.

If I read 500 introductory biology textbooks --- that still does not make me a medical doctor.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 12:16:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

>>>¿Jorge Cortell es Americano?

He grew up in the US. He went to an american high school, went to an american community college, played american college basketball.

>>>Sí escucho a Almeida o a David Bravo decir que Jorge Cortell nos engaña empezaría a creermelo.

The "silence" tells you a lot more.

Don't you think it is strange that David wrote many many blogs about Cortell (before May 22) and none (after May 22)?

David's creditability was directly affected by this whole fiasco (because David was very high profile in April about the whole thing). Now --- David is cutting his loses.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 12:26:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

Pero ¿por qué David Bravo no habla acerca de Jorge Cortell?

No entiendo estas palabras (hablo muy mal inglés)
cut ---> cortar
loses ---> perdidas
("Now --- David is cutting his loses.")
¿Puedes decirmelo con otras palabras?

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 12:48:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

"To cut someone's loses" generally means in financial terms --- i.e. accepting your internet stock is worthless and sell it right away (not continued holding the stock and hoping that the stock market would bounced back up).

In David Bravo's case --- he was very vocal (very high profile) in his blog entries about the university's threat of closing Cortell's conference in late April and early May.

Then --- suddenly, David said nothing after the CV fiasco. Not in his blog entries. Not even when other people asked in the comment section in his blogs --- David continued to say nothing.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 1:06:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous bach said...

anonymous:

Creo que ya entiendo lo que quieres decir. Gracias por tus explicaciones.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 1:14:00 a. m.

 
Anonymous Anónimo said...

You have to put some of the blame on Polytechnic University of Valencia as well.

It's like Cortell's "oxford diploma". The diploma is designed for the "unemployed" and "housewifes with kids" to make money for the university.

http://www.conted.ox.ac.uk/courses/computing/promo/our_students/entry_profile.asp

I do not think that real oxford professors with real PhD's teaches a bunch of "unemployed" and "housewifes". Not a real oxford professor teaching not a real oxford "accredited" course.

Officially, Jorge Cortell teaches under this "professional" program at UPV.

http://www.mag.upv.es/infoepp.html

"Está dirigido a profesores, postgraduados universitarios, diseñadores, publicistas, periodistas, especialistas en imagen y sonido y profesionales que quieran formación especifica en algún campo de la multimedia."

Much like Oxford's "diploma", Jorge Cortell is not a real professor teaching not a real "accredited" course.

This UPV professional program is not real either --- it is just to make money for the university.

miércoles, junio 15, 2005 2:19:00 a. m.

 
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